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From:
Konstantin Minko
To:
, jon anderson
Date:
Fri, 12 Jan 2001 15:19:05 +0200
Subject:
RE: [idm] "simply a moron?"
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I do agree with this post 100%. Thanx for stating my point of view on this anti-laerm thread. facism is bad but every coin has two sides.... let's stop this thread. idm content: Isol "All the pretty things" proved to be absolutely not I had expected... I mean I like it nevertheless very much but I thought it to be like melody idm or something but it is some form of bass influenced noise ambient IMHO.
quoted 55 lines -----Original Message-----> -----Original Message----- > From: jon anderson [mailto:pyrrhonist2@yahoo.com] > Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 1:57 AM > To: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: [idm] "simply a moron?" > > > I haven't followed this thread too well, so i don't > know what the original point was. But in the last few > postings, it seems that laerm has made a valid point > that has been missed. > > The point is, ironically, supported by analogies made > by the detractors: dog turds ARE (or at least, some > might feel are) a beautiful shade of olive-brown, and > jumping out of a plane without a parachute CAN be > thrilling - despite the bad consequences. > > Everyone seems to agree that jumping out of planes, > dog turds, and fascism suck. Nobody said fascism was > good. And the specific qualities laerm pointed out > might unfortunately be bad examples. maybe a better > example is this: fascism has inspired alot of people > to NOT be fascist. That's a good thing isn't it? Or > would it be better if we didn't learn from our > mistakes? > > The general point is simply that all things, no matter > how simplistic and bad they appear to be, are > complexes of qualities, and not every single minute > quality or long term effect of a thing will turn out > to be a bad one. > > This argument says nothing about the value of fascism, > or about the relative number of good vs bad qualities > it might have. What people are attacking is in fact a > strawman version of this argument. (e.g., the argument > that fascism itself is "good" or in some way justified > by some good effect it tends to have.) > > hopefully this issue was raised in connection with > some idm related topic, otherwise sorry for continuing > the totally irrelevant postings. > > j > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! > http://photos.yahoo.com/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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